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The Great Al · Nov 06, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45

With Sorrow's furnace I thought it was awesome that we were getting a free update with a huge area. Although I have no idea what the 'huge update within the next few months' will be, I just automatically now have the feeling that we are getting stuff that wasn't ready for the NF release. I think overall the fanbase was much happier at the notion that we really were getting a free update that was totally unexpected.

brokenmonkey · Nov 06, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Timeline? Well, maybe there will be something under your Christmas tree wrapped in ones and zeros: Codified Christmas gift

Haha, Yes, ma'am

sindex · Nov 06, 2006, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Thanks for the update. I so hate myself for doing this but, we can technically say that the manuals in GW Nightfall about the supposed Elite Mission are clearly falsified right (I’m not going to point fingers but is this NCSoft’s doing)? As for some other things like the last hero, I’m really not surprised there; I could see some serious maintenance problems laid out in this hero when the line was added “Profession: Variable."

Lucifer PVP · Nov 06, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

its not done .. nothing we can do .. i would rather wait then have them do a rush job on it.

dwc89 · Nov 06, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Hmm.... Factions advertised, or other means of getting info out, Elite missions and guess what! They were there.

All titles were attainable as well , no "bugs".

So NightFall is/was supposed to have and Elite Mission(s) and they are not here - maybe in a few months, c'mon. I read that as not having been done yet at all.

And now there seems to be a reason why the Prima Guide was axed as the one for Factions had the Elite Missions in there. Imagine the uproar had we gotten the guides with Elite Mission in it, but not in game - louder than this I would say.

The Title thing is annoying because I went through game and am not looking forward to "farming" points.

Hmm...... like NF a lot as it is fun to play and not a grind. This however has left a bad taste, enough that I'll be waiting on Chapter 4. Reading forums etc to see what is up with that.

Oh well, help guildies and friends get through and move other chars along is all I can do.

And Gaile, sorry - your posts sound like company spin. The rank thing should be dealt with yesterday for sure, not in some update. And 3 months for an Elite mission is BS. Additional content to me means something akin to Sorrows Furnace - unexpected.

ign - Huntress Velasca

sindex · Nov 06, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07

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Originally Posted by Lucifer PVP

it not done .. nothing we can do .. i would rather wait then have them do a rush job on it.

I thought she was talking about added content like a new explore-able area (i.e. sorrow’s furnace) not a full out elite mission or am I wrong? That’s why I as asking, I don’t care if that’s done on time; I’m already enjoying Nightfall as is.

Knightsaber Sith · Nov 06, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

^Actually I believe she said a new method of elite mission access but not a sorrow's furnace style update.

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Now, I’m not taking a “Sorrow’s Furnace” size update – with the development schedule we’ve on, that wouldn’t be realistic. But we know that players love new content, and that you relish the way that it refreshes and reinvigorates the game and furnishes new challenges. And the dev team is on board to offer it!

RobotNinja · Nov 06, 2006, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Come on people...

"I can't get Rank 9", Boo Hoo. "There is no elite mission" YET, Boo Hoo.

You can't speed up the process by bitching about it, ANet have now stated that a update to these issues is coming... Sweet, Problem solved. I mean, Its not as if the game is ruined because you cant get your precious title or do an Elite mission.

How many Hours have you all played NF for by now? 100+ Hours? 200+ Hours? Even if you recieve no more free content, that is still EXCELLENT value in my books. (Based on a Game hours played Vs. Money Spent Ratio)

Coming from playing BF2 where the support, patches and updates are horrid, To Guild Wars where there is Constant updates, Dev's that actually take the communities opinion into consideration, and EVEN a dedicated community manager (props to Gaile)
You so called "Old School" Guild Wars players dont realise how lucky you have it.

I say bring on the update, and In the meantime I will be doing the other 991 things that there are to whittle away time in Elona.

Bass T · Nov 06, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21

i only want a short answer:

do i can find razah in the game now? (i have all gw chapters)

sure its fun to make everything to find him
but i would feel fooled if i am searching for something thats not ingame!

CHUIU · Nov 06, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Yes at least give us conclusive answers on content. We're all under the impressing that the Elite mission, Razah, etc were all in the game and now you're telling us the Elite Mission isnt in yet. The least you can do is tell us whether or not Razah is in the game yet so we can stop spending hours double checking NPC's and searching area's and outposts.

sindex · Nov 06, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

^Actually I believe she said a new method of elite mission access but not a sorrow's furnace style update.

It felt a bit confusing trying to figure that one out, but yeah from that point of view maybe you’re right.

For the love of cheddar, I am not complaining got it, I was just confused; CONFUSED I TELL YOU! You want me to spell out or sacrifice blood, to say I love Nightfall as is (Jeez).

Gli · Nov 06, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwc89

The Title thing is annoying because I went through game and am not looking forward to "farming" points.

My point exactly. I reached Castellan just before moving on to Vabbi, without farming for points at all. I've just been playing: exploring the map, doing quests, capping all elites, and sometimes going back to areas I completed to help guildies along. This got me to Castellan without trying.

Now, I've played through Vabbi, without blessings, and will play through it again, capping the elites and probably again helping guildies, and at the end of it, I won't have scored a single promotion point.

A few months from now, when there's absolutely nothing more to do in Kourna and Vabbi for my main (title collecting) character, I'll have to go back and grind for 7,000 points. Doesn't feel right to me.

Sidra · Nov 06, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwc89

Hmm.... Factions advertised, or other means of getting info out, Elite missions and guess what! They were there.

All titles were attainable as well , no "bugs".

So NightFall is/was supposed to have and Elite Mission(s) and they are not here - maybe in a few months, c'mon. I read that as not having been done yet at all.

And now there seems to be a reason why the Prima Guide was axed as the one for Factions had the Elite Missions in there. Imagine the uproar had we gotten the guides with Elite Mission in it, but not in game - louder than this I would say.

The Title thing is annoying because I went through game and am not looking forward to "farming" points.

Hmm...... like NF a lot as it is fun to play and not a grind. This however has left a bad taste, enough that I'll be waiting on Chapter 4. Reading forums etc to see what is up with that.

Oh well, help guildies and friends get through and move other chars along is all I can do.

And Gaile, sorry - your posts sound like company spin. The rank thing should be dealt with yesterday for sure, not in some update. And 3 months for an Elite mission is BS. Additional content to me means something akin to Sorrows Furnace - unexpected.

ign - Huntress Velasca

When Factions was announced, there were a couple months until its release. Assuming that the dev team split and began working AFTER Sorrow's, that leaves much less time for Factions to be developed than Nightfall. Which is weird, because we'd expect more bugs from it. Nightfall has had ~6 more months to develop. Much more PvE content is definetely noticed, as well as depth and all that other jargon. But- IF Nightfall has been in development for so much longer, why are there such hugely glaring errors on ANet's part, and such odd PR cover ups? I personally am completely discontented w/ Gaile's post, simply because it tells us lots but nothing at the same time. An update- woohoo, more content to cover in the short 6 month time period between new chapters.

"With our current schedule a sorrow's sized update (not quoted perfectly) would not be very practical". Well, maybe it's something wrong w/ your update schedule then? Why there is such imbalance between the chapters? Not much cohesion at all, besides a link between the continents? Hrm.

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Originally Posted by RobotNinja

Come on people...

"I can't get Rank 9", Boo Hoo. "There is no elite mission" YET, Boo Hoo.

You can't speed up the process by bitching about it, ANet have now stated that a update to these issues is coming... Sweet, Problem solved. I mean, Its not as if the game is ruined because you cant get your precious title or do an Elite mission.

How many Hours have you all played NF for by now? 100+ Hours? 200+ Hours? Even if you recieve no more free content, that is still EXCELLENT value in my books. (Based on a Game hours played Vs. Money Spent Ratio)

Coming from playing BF2 where the support, patches and updates are horrid, To Guild Wars where there is Constant updates, Dev's that actually take the communities opinion into consideration, and EVEN a dedicated community manager (props to Gaile)
You so called "Old School" Guild Wars players dont realise how lucky you have it.

I say bring on the update, and In the meantime I will be doing the other 991 things that there are to whittle away time in Elona.

Actually, we can fix a lot by "bitching". Complaining and arguing for something we seriously think should be changed and need to be changed, as consumers, as a majority community in guildwars, our opinions definetely matter. I've played BF2, UT2004, CS, Runescape, Silkroad, blah blah blah. GuildWars players are lucky to have such input from the devs, yes, but it's a double edged sword. They try to "balance" the game based on our discussions and input so much it becomes a mess. Look at farming now. Money-production is coming to a virtual halt. It's a very strange era of GW play. If we're promised something, multiple times, if we BUY their product on this premise, and they still interact and update w/ the community... then there is no reason to have such a content gap. Covering it up as a holiday update doesn't change the fact that things are missing. Maybe Factions WAS a horrible game, but it gave what it promised, AB'ing, elite missions, shiro, assassins, ritualists. Nightfall... I don't know what to say. I love the game, but I'm not loving at ALL the way ANet is handling their current PR. I have mixed feelings.

SirErnieMacGloop · Nov 06, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Only an a seriously mis-informed person would go by what a gaming magazine said (pre-release) would be in a game.

That said.

I find it very unfortunate that what was included in the game packaging ('manuscripts') and the online manual (which was online up til yesterday as of 9:14PM EST - still in my Internet cache) both stating misleading things about the elite mission being in NightFall.

A simple addendum, note or maybe some info on your support site instead of 'no comment' per your online visit 11/4, would have made alot of people a little less worried about finding the Elite Mission and a little more concerned with enjoying the game.

I had lots of nice things to say about Nightfall, most of them are still true, but this has left a very bad impression with me.

/signed - a very disgruntled long time customer

Feminist Terrorist · Nov 06, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentVex

You gain nothing from ambiguity.

Perhaps Anet needs to remember this phrase. They're very good at it, but it only serves to annoy the rest of us.

malevolence · Nov 06, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45

NF is big enough to wait for the "big update" that is coming, I mean, come on, there are a lot of stuff to do, please don't say that now you can do nothing untill next update(unless you live in the game?), we have a great game, with 3 campaing right now, 10 classes, millions of quest, millions of skills, pvp, gvg, hero ascend, farming the new green items, getting FoW armor ....... etc etc...

I see that there was a mistake with the info gathered by magazines or what-ever(including NF manual) , but we are lucky that we have ANET Team that will fix it. A lot of games in the market takes years to fix/add something, so please, give them the time to fix it, don't rush at them , let ANET team do the job correctly.

Thank you Gaile for the support and the answers

, your work is much appreciated !

Go Go ANET !

PD: Sorry for my english lol :P

/cheers

Malevolence

Cur · Nov 06, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50

I see pitchforks! The mob is angry.

This thread is a pretty good indication of how addicted some people are to this game.

dreamhunk · Nov 06, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

people should relax, give anet time on this one i would rather have a elite fun mission than one that is rushed.

has any one ever made a game or animation or programing. Anet gave us alot of content, just give them time for the rest of the game.

we all want to check out and play the end game content so lets just wait.

patance is a vuture

Anet take your time

xiao1985 · Nov 06, 2006, 02:53 AM // 02:53

love NF...

i thought i was gonna hate it (was of asian origin, so i thought i'd like faction more...) but ever since NF released, i cna't stop myself playing it... even amidst my exams...

GJ anet, GJ...

a for the sunpear thing, would it be possible to raise in rank as much as possible with blessing, and then do quests which give you promotional points?!

much like in prophecy pre sear, how you would get lvl16 before get out of pre-sear?!

ps, @ gaile: love you speech in "making of NF" =D Mike's funny too... oh oh... can you bring my regard to the person who incorporated battling music in NF... i ABSOLUTELY love it!!!

aohige · Nov 06, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54

It's nice to see that GuildWars community has developed to become the biggest whining sissies in the entire online gaming community. There's not one game, not ONE, out there that has more reflections of user demands than Guild Wars. They constantly reflect what the users have been bitching about, over the course of the entire existence.
I think the devs spoils us too much.

Btw, Gaile, I appreciate your continuous effort to communicate with us the latest info, and hope the missed content will be coming soon. Keep up the great work.